Im just waiting for when this wonderful govnt of ours starts the internment camps back up. Fuckers!

god, i hope he pursues it.

he was just on democracy now yesterday!

That's totally fucked up - the whole thing, the "I will buy you a new T-shirt" business to changing his seat. Don't they generally get everyone seated and then ask whether anyone minds changing - in a nice diplomatic way?

based on the rest of the story, i think they wanted him on the plane, in the back, where no one else would see him, rather than right up front.

the woman/ baby was a ruse.

This is such utter horse shit. I am stunned. I am getting one of those shirts.............

Let me know how if you find out.

If you can't understand the language, how can you be offended by speech? I've heard of this happening before to friends wearing t-shirts with slogans but in most cases it's been some private security personnel. This is the first time I can remember federal screeners taking such actions.

As if a bomber would wear a fucking t-shirt declaring his intentions, in a language millions of people understand.

Something about fellow passengers reporting this doesn't ring true. Sounds more like an overzealous Jet Blue employee.

Dunno. There was recently a report in the papers about two Asian Muslim men who were taken off an airplane because other customers kept coming off the plane and saying they refused to fly if those men were also on their flight. In the end, the two men were taken off, questioned for hours, and finally put back on another flight. I don't have a link to the article handy, but if you didn't hear the story, I'm sure there are other folks here who will corroborate it for me.

I certainly wouldn't put it past other customers to complain about someone in their waiting area like that.

t shirt

(Anonymous)
I don't have a problem with this at all. It sounds to me like they (security) went out of their way to make you feel less uncomfortable than you could have been. They apparently had one heck of a lot of PAYING passengers that decided they did not want to be nervous the whole flight about you and complaining about your t-shirt got them exactly what they wanted: you to be checked out. Nothing wrong with that since a lot of people in the world seem to want all us infidels dead. Imagine the 3,000 lives including CHILDREN saved if a couple of passengers had voiced concerns over any one of the 19 9/11 hijackers demeanor.

GOD BLESS AMERICA and smite it's enemies!

You "anonymous", are an idiot.

I don't have a problem with this at all. It sounds to me like they (security) went out of their way to make you feel less uncomfortable than you could have been. They apparently had one heck of a lot of PAYING passengers that decided they did not want to be nervous the whole flight about you and complaining about your t-shirt got them exactly what they wanted: you to be checked out. Imagine the 3,000 lives saved if a couple of passengers had voiced concerns over any one of the 19 9/11 hijackers demeanor.

complaining about your t-shirt

hahaha!

Thank your fellow terrorist Muslims

(Anonymous)
For the ridiculous treatment you received.

I totally agree with you, A T-Shirt is not going to harm anyone and TSA behaved foolishly.

But then again, thats all that TSA can do, is to behave foolish and hold "Security Theatre", where they in all earnest do stupid things to make people feel safer, which in the end only annoy people.

Of course you are not the only one annoyed. Prior to the Muslim attack of 9/11, Flying was fairly enjoyable. Now I must take ridiculous and stupid steps and stand in long lines because Islam and its love of blood.

While I don't think for a minute that you are a terrorist, Muslim in general have failed to reign in their crazy brethern, and now we ALL must suffer.

Get a grip on Islam, and foolishness like this will eventually subside.


Re: Thank your fellow terrorist Muslims

Getting a grip on fucking imperialism would be a nice step in the right direction, you racist sack of shit.

- Adam

"people here in the US don't understand these things about constitutional rights"

Apparently not. Wow.

This is absolutely fucking ridiculous. I can't believe anyone had to go through such a thing because they chose to express a sentiment that we SHOULD ALL BE EMBRACING.

it doesn't sound that surprising to me. tho i agree with concept that people should be able to wear whatever they want whenever they want, it does strike me as a bad idea to wear a shirt with script that no one can understand to an airport where the xenophobia level is right up there with a klan rally. if he really wanted to get on the plane quickly and easily, a different choice of shirt would have done the trick, but being born a different race would have been the best bet.

i am, however, taken aback at the level of surprise people are expressing over this story. what did you think would happen? did you think people would just look at his shirt and be understanding of the point it makes? did you think they would look at his brown skin and suddenly be accepting? this is america and we have a long history of making ourselves look foolish in both policy and practice. that is not to say that outrage isn't the best course of action. of course you have to speak out against such injustices. of course such things are bullshit. but what can you honestly expect from this country in these years.

now, i am not saying "roll over and let it happen", but picking a battle over a t-shirt that was probably a bad idea in the first place, not the best fight. pushed to the wall, of course i side with the t-shirt wearer over the pigs, but as far as common sense and comfort goes, not the best clothing choice.


well, i would have picked the fight if i wore such a shirt in the first place. but generally i am too lazy to get into a situation like this at all. when i speak german at a u.s. airport i am very careful about what i say, making sure i only use words that would not be understood in english.

I'm about as Republican and Conservative as a guy can get and this just pisses me off. I hope he pursues it. And I hope he nails the bastards right in the wallet.

So...because I don't speak spanish, should I be able to have every Hispanic in my town not be able to wear anything that does not read in English to the local airport?

Fucking bullshit.

Sometimes this country is so asinine, i think the best thing i could do to keep from losing my mind is to immigrate.

I've lost a bit of respect for Jet Blue I think.

Jet Blue was the first company to VOLUNTARILY turn over their passenger data to DHS.

that just makes me sick!

a few of us from my lj agree that he should write the nytimes and share his story with them.

has he contact the ACLU regarding this, do you know?

He did contact the ACLU and they are suing, based upon what he said on Democracy Now.

holy shit dude.

listen, i totally admire how you stood up for yourself and what was right, despite overwhelming pressure and intimidation. that took a lot of courage---one of a million things missing right now in our civilized society.


I thought that Raed and Salam Pax were one and the same somehow. Are you certain that they are cousins? They are both architects, I know that.

Re: Where is Raed?

I just saw a documentary on LINK tv that identified them as the same person, so I'm confused too.

two things:
1) time for a JetBlue boycott, people!!!!!!!!!
2) this reminds me of the man and his son in upstate ny who were arrested for wearing tshirts that said 'give peace a chance' inside the shopping mall where they purchased the shirts. funny how, in times of war, people are threatened by messages of peace.

That is horrifying. I hope he does pursue legal action. I'd recommend the ACLU who may take the case on for free.

I have mixed feelings about this

(Anonymous)
First off, making someone cover up a Tshirt is just silly. If you feel the guy is a threat, then take him off the plane and process him accordingly. If he's not a threat, then the T-shirt certainly isnt either. I don't have a problem with TSA and Jet-Blue throughly checking out this guy as they did. Thats just common sense..A muslim with unknown islamic script on his shirt, along with an English quotation that could be viewed as a threat. Taken in full context, this guy was absolutely worth additional scrutiny....Certainly makes more sense than making little old ladies throw away their Water bottles and lipstick. However..once the guy as cleared as not a threat, then let him go on his way and leave him alone! But its not that clear....the fact that they made him take a seat further away from the front of airplane (near the pilots) is evidence that they are still suspicious of him. The airline/Tsa started out in the right...checking out a suspicious character. i.e, looking for terrorist, rather than terrorist tools. However the fact that they then sent him on his way, while still harboring doubt(seat change) is VERY concerning. Not to mention the T-shirt coverup thing (what next? Binary T-Shirts?) I think the underlying problem is that the airlines and TSA is WAY to afraid of being deemed politically incorrect to do anything worthwhile.

Re: I have mixed feelings about this

The airline/Tsa started out in the right...checking out a suspicious character. i.e, looking for terrorist, rather than terrorist tools. However the fact that they then sent him on his way, while still harboring doubt(seat change) is VERY concerning.

They had nothing on him and no reason to hold him. Perhaps they are not scared of their own shadow as much as others are apparently.

That's so many shades of fucked up. People's prejudice, unfounded fears and idiocy never fails to surprise me, though I shouldn't be surprised.

I want the shirt.

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